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NBC NFL analyst Tony Dungy joined the show to talk about the Wells Report on DeflateGate.

Dungy said that any quarterback knows even small changes in the football, just like a pitcher knows his baseballs. Dungy said it’s unrealistic to think that the equipment managers wouldn’t do something without Brady’s approval. Dungy said the NFL has always been tougher on performance-related infractions. He expects Brady to miss some “game time.”

Brady also weighed in on Chip Kelly. “I don’t think Chip is racist,” Kelly said. “Chip has a kind of person he likes.” He pointed to several of the African-American players Kelly favorited.