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NBC’s Bob Costas joined the show to talk about American Pharoah winning the Triple Crown and more.

Costas said that you can’t argue with American Pharoah’s dominance and that it was a great atmosphere at Belmont.

Costas also weighed in on Caitlyn Jenner winning the Arthur Ashe Award from ESPN: “Bruce Jenner, who I did not know well. I always had a cordial relationship with. I wish Caitlyn Jenner wel …anyone seeking to find the identity they’re comfortable with and live the happiest possibly life without hurting anybody. … I wish Caitlyn all the happiness and peace of mind in the world. However, it strikes me that awarding the Arthur Ashe to Caitlyn Jenner is just a crass exploitation play.

Costas said it’s a “play to pump up” ratings, which is what happens in television shows.